My guess is that the reason why the vetting program for Veep is taking so long is because everyone understands that Sen. Har--um, the Veep is going to basically become the face of the administration from day 1 (assuming the Flying Spaghetti Monster graces us with a Trump lost). So the DNC is doing their damnedest to make sure that Kamal--er, the person that they pick agrees to following the official moderate/crappy script.
I was thinking about this earlier today. Biden is both literally and figuratively the representation of how antiquated the DNC and its strategies are; it’s the same old out-of-touch garbage. Watching and listening to Biden and all the rhetoric of his ads is like watching obsolescence in real time.
All Biden has to do is bring in smart honest people who actually want to help their cabinet organization and not destroy it, mask mandate, kill fillibuster, and help immigrants and it'll be an success.
Ehh I've resigned myself to the fact that a Biden presidency won't meaningfully move the needle on a number of things this nation desperately needs, but at the very least (and in the time of covid and climate change and border atrocities etc) he'll hire competent people as cabinet members--former governors and experts and respected longtime bureaucrats, as opposed to the Tom Prices and Ben Carsons and Betsy Devoses of the current dipshit brigade that Trump put in office.
I'm trying to find minor solace in the idea that at least the person in charge of public education will maybe have ever set foot in a public school and isn't hell-bent on destroying public education in favor of private Christian schools for the wealthy and fuck-all for the poor.
I’m sure he’ll hire “competent people”, but you won’t like what they’re competent at: advisors handpicked by Wall Street, soulless DNC lifers, people coming out the other side of the lobbyist revolving door. They won’t be as vulgar, as bigoted or as openly corrupt as Trump’s administration, but they’ll only “fix” what’s unacceptable to the neoliberal order and put an acceptable veneer on the rest.
Come the fuck on, hiring some neoliberal secretary of education who started as a teacher but then went to Goldman Sachs isn't better than Betsy Devos? Save me the orthodox bullshit.
"Not Betsy Devos" is such a low fucking bar. I don't think we should let the existence of the Trump administration and its unique combination of incompetence and malice lead to a corruption of standards whereby we fool ourselves into thinking that the hypothetical Secretary of Education you have conjured up, who sounds horrible, is somehow "good" because they're not literally Betsy Devos.
Nowhere did you say what? In any event, it's pretty difficult to read any of your comments here and not come to the conclusion that you are saying "Well, at least the SoE won't be as bad as Devos."
Nowhere did I say that a hypothetical Biden appointee would be "good." I said they'd be better than Betsy DeVos and far more beholden to labor and education-best-practices advocacy efforts than anyone in the Bush II or Trump administrations have ever been. That's a net positive. You appear to be part of a hive of commenters on here who believe that all political stripes not specifically tied to your Twitter timeline are inherently the same evil and exist beyond nuance or a world in which advocacy, lawmaking and organizational politics apply pressure to an administration and make progress depending on the even *slight* bent of an appointed secretary. It's keyboard warrior bullshit.
It’ll be marginally better, yeah! But Biden’s EduSec will likely continue to push for the privatization and charterization of schooling and will probably continue to protect the interest of university administration over victims of sexual assault and harassment. They won’t have that classic ultra-rich evangelical ghoul look and feel, but There’ll be enough left in tact so that the next DeVos type can pick right up where Betsy leaves off.
Treating Biden and his administration as the enemy the instant they enter the office should they win the election, and opposing them just as strongly as we do Trump?
Biden lied a lot. Guess what ended his 1988 Presidential bid? The fuckstick plagiarized a speech word for word. This useless fuck told a crowd in Scranton, PA he was a coal miner. Fucking crook. His son Hunter is a drug addict and a thief. Fuck this asshole.
Isn't this basically the cycle of American politics? Republicans in power fuck some stuff up, start a war, and cut taxes/services (pick one or all), then Democrats gain power and sort of fix things but don't necessarily make things much better than they were before. Then the cycle starts again.
Yeah it absolutely is. And it's absolutely more effective to lobby, petition and advocate within a generally competent, well-meaning neoliberal's bureaucracy than within that of a completely amoral kleptocrat like Tom Price or Chad Wolf or Betsy Devos. Pretending there isn't a difference there is just stupid.
Sorry I wasn't trying to pretend there's not a difference, rather making the point that this cycle partially explains the lack of fast progress towards leftist issues. Too much time spent recovering from Republican administrations.
Oh absolutely agree. I totally wish we had a leftist champion as the nominee, but Biden is apparently what we get. So on day one we start rattling sabers for his cabinet appointments and policy moves.
I mean apparently everyone loves when Joe yells at people. I say let him challenge everyone to a push up contest and say "c'mon man" every five seconds.
I personally would love to have a push-up contest with Joe Biden while he yells weird insults from the 1920s at me. I'd rather have Bernie be the president, but hey. Maybe I'll get the push-up contest.
Biden was already the least worst choice in a lot of people's minds and everyone already knows who he is so the strategy of 'let others around me implode' seems about right. The most confusing part about the primary to me is I felt like so many people I know were surprised or just couldn't believe the moderates consolidated like that. That was always the play, and it wasn't collusion (a term that is basically rendered meaningless at this point), just American politics. I was looking for something in some old messages a couple months before Super Tuesday recently and was literally making a bet with a policy friend in DC about when the consolidation was going to go down. It did go down a bit more dramatically than I thought, but doesn't everything these days?
Realistically though, [president] Biden has an ego just like every single other politician currently serving, and I would bet money he cares far more about his legacy and racking up congressional wins than he does about progressive policies. He's not going to stand in the way of progressive reforms that come up the chain. As usual, people are putting far too much stock in the presidency, it's a distraction, congress and public opinion matter more in this battle.
Biden has said he would veto Medicare for All, and the platform committee voted overwhelmingly against it, despite the policy enjoying widespread support from Democrats and the electorate at large.
Dude, this fucking ninny just doesn't stop. The brass balls on such a turbocucked lib calling himself 'punk rock'.
He had a wallet chain and a bowling shirt and frosted tips and listened to ska and rockabilly for four months during 1995 and refers to it as his wild punk years.
Where. The. Fuck. is your buddy in this? If I had a really real, totally cool, I can't name him though friend who wrote for this site I'd have sent him a text two hours ago, he'd have called the guy I was arguing with a poser and stfu and that would have been the end of it.
It would have taken like, 5 seconds. Are you like this in real life? Do you just constantly spin wild, transparent lies every ten minutes?
I don’t know what to tell you. Most of the things I’ve said about myself on this thread is probably confirmable on the internet. In fact, if you just look around other posts you can probably confirm some of this yourself, though I’m not sure because of the subscriber thing. I would not contact a single person in my life in regards a fucking argument on the internet, and in this case, I’m not sure you’d even believe what your eyes saw.
Every punk clique has a Beto. Everyone knows from day one who it is. The guy who never has rent money but has a rich dad so he's got 20k in ink on him.
See, now this actually does piss me off a little. Both of my parents grew up on welfare, other government assistance, and "begging from relatives" in their words. My mom, who didn't have much of a childhood, was the oldest of 9 kids with a severely alcoholic father who didn't work the first 20 years of her life. But hey, lucky for me they worked hard, got educated, and I didn't grow up that way. You have no clue what you're talking about. Do you judge everyone this quickly? Or just people with marginally different political views?
Also cheers on getting welfare and then voting in the guy who destroyed welfare. Keep on burning those ladders fucko.
And keep pretending like there's only a marginal difference between your centrist ass and people on the Actual Left. Because you can't be a conservative, reactionary status quo lib if you're 99.9% a lefty.
It doesn't matter, these guys live entirely in a fanfic headcanon that has no reference to any of the very public words and deeds Biden's said and done in full view of TV cameras and on the front page of major newspapers for 50 years.
Rather than deal with the fact that after 4 years of #MeToo and #BLM he's going to be voting for a segregationist dixiecrat who raped at least one woman, he's decided he's voting for the candidate that we'd all actually like to see elected, and therefore he's not compromised, not owned, laughing about it actually. Can't wait for all the progressive reforms like not caging children, like not attacking reproductive rights, like not criminalizing blackness, like not evicting millions on fraudulent pretext for a bank's bottom line, that literally would not exist to be reformed but for a half century of the diligent work of Joseph Robinette Biden.
Medicare for All would never make it to Biden's desk. Medicare for All has never been in focus aside than somewhat in the primary, it has never faced the kind of public well funded beating that would ensue. Today's public opinion is just that, today's public opinion. Bernie ran a 5 year campaign for president and ended up less popular.
Besides, do you really want Joe Biden advocating for Medicare for All? Your spokes person and optics mean a ton. That would be a disaster.
Holy fuck your name just hit me. Nothing more punk rock than giving racists a complete free pass. It's rare to see someone in the Chrysalis phase of the punk-to-fash metamorphosis.
"This banker's racist pet senator is Oi! as fuck! Can't wait to crush a buncha mickeys with my boys from the squat then hit the voting booth to entrench Wells Fargo execs Christmas 2020 bonuses on the backs of black renters!
Keep on Speaking Compliments To Power, you fucking Beto-ass ex-crust.
You know, picking your battles wisely is a useful life skill. Why at this moment in our timeline would I waste picking a battle with Joe fucking Biden? Someone who hasn't changed a bit in the 25 years I've been reading political news when I wake up in the morning. Our time here is limited you know.
It takes two to tango. So why the fuck are you wasting it lying about him?
You seem pretty aware what a fuckface he is.
Also, bitch it's not a waste of time to attack evil powerful people. Thats the basis of this whole website, this very article where you did that fakeass "Hey good take! I totally agree with this post and oh did I mention halfway through this comment I'm gonna do a 180 and vocally support/deny everything this article is about!"
It reads as genuine and real as the replies that are like "Wonderful article, it reminds me of my aunt who made 50,000 working from home playing clash of clans at bitcoinsilkroad.yx!" btw.
And it's 50 years, not 25. He got his start in the 70s, with mob help, by opposing bussing sending his 'white kids into jungle schools'
Man I'm not sure what sort of DNC intern office you're posting out of, but get another gig.
Yikes. The 25 years was a referencing to how long I've personally paid any attention to politics. See, my parents were very civically engaged people. They started incorporating political discussions in my life when I was about 12. My first political project was on free speech and I read old ACLU cases for Social Studies class. Right now I'm killing time until this awful video conference I'm on ends.
Did I even comment directly on any of this blog post? I just came on here to throw an opinion out there like everyone else. Anyway, I hope being constantly angry about every powerful person in the world suits you well. I'm sure if you just focus on everything at once you'll get things done efficiently.
In fairness, it seems like replying to your comment via email notifications auto-likes on my behalf? So that's one personality flaw you honestly don't express. I've corrected it.
Did I? It wasn't intentional if I did. Would you actually be available outside of here? I've been working on writing a bot with a friend that targets nazis on Reddit. I know you're not a nazi, but the stream of comments I've been reading lately coming from that output is remarkably similar in tone. I'd like to learn more.
Serious feedback. I'm having trouble following what you're saying. Is that really your best example when talking about Biden? I'd have given you a better one than that if you asked.
Everyon knows what sealioning is man. No one bites at that hook
Make a positive statement. Quit posting no-content reactions to other people's statements. You said some proveably wrong shit and you haven't responded genuinely to any of it.
I actually don't even know what sealioning is but I'll Google it now. Please fact check me. What facts did I miss. I think you're having trouble with my subjective statements.
A Biden Presidency will bring down America into a Socialist paradise that billionaires like Soros, Gates, Bloomberg so they can run a puppet regime with him at the figure head President in name only.
President C'mon Man
Biden won't be ALIVE this time next year. POS.
My guess is that the reason why the vetting program for Veep is taking so long is because everyone understands that Sen. Har--um, the Veep is going to basically become the face of the administration from day 1 (assuming the Flying Spaghetti Monster graces us with a Trump lost). So the DNC is doing their damnedest to make sure that Kamal--er, the person that they pick agrees to following the official moderate/crappy script.
I was thinking about this earlier today. Biden is both literally and figuratively the representation of how antiquated the DNC and its strategies are; it’s the same old out-of-touch garbage. Watching and listening to Biden and all the rhetoric of his ads is like watching obsolescence in real time.
All Biden has to do is bring in smart honest people who actually want to help their cabinet organization and not destroy it, mask mandate, kill fillibuster, and help immigrants and it'll be an success.
Ehh I've resigned myself to the fact that a Biden presidency won't meaningfully move the needle on a number of things this nation desperately needs, but at the very least (and in the time of covid and climate change and border atrocities etc) he'll hire competent people as cabinet members--former governors and experts and respected longtime bureaucrats, as opposed to the Tom Prices and Ben Carsons and Betsy Devoses of the current dipshit brigade that Trump put in office.
I'm trying to find minor solace in the idea that at least the person in charge of public education will maybe have ever set foot in a public school and isn't hell-bent on destroying public education in favor of private Christian schools for the wealthy and fuck-all for the poor.
I’m sure he’ll hire “competent people”, but you won’t like what they’re competent at: advisors handpicked by Wall Street, soulless DNC lifers, people coming out the other side of the lobbyist revolving door. They won’t be as vulgar, as bigoted or as openly corrupt as Trump’s administration, but they’ll only “fix” what’s unacceptable to the neoliberal order and put an acceptable veneer on the rest.
Come the fuck on, hiring some neoliberal secretary of education who started as a teacher but then went to Goldman Sachs isn't better than Betsy Devos? Save me the orthodox bullshit.
"Not Betsy Devos" is such a low fucking bar. I don't think we should let the existence of the Trump administration and its unique combination of incompetence and malice lead to a corruption of standards whereby we fool ourselves into thinking that the hypothetical Secretary of Education you have conjured up, who sounds horrible, is somehow "good" because they're not literally Betsy Devos.
Nowhere did I say that
Nowhere did you say what? In any event, it's pretty difficult to read any of your comments here and not come to the conclusion that you are saying "Well, at least the SoE won't be as bad as Devos."
Nowhere did I say that a hypothetical Biden appointee would be "good." I said they'd be better than Betsy DeVos and far more beholden to labor and education-best-practices advocacy efforts than anyone in the Bush II or Trump administrations have ever been. That's a net positive. You appear to be part of a hive of commenters on here who believe that all political stripes not specifically tied to your Twitter timeline are inherently the same evil and exist beyond nuance or a world in which advocacy, lawmaking and organizational politics apply pressure to an administration and make progress depending on the even *slight* bent of an appointed secretary. It's keyboard warrior bullshit.
It’ll be marginally better, yeah! But Biden’s EduSec will likely continue to push for the privatization and charterization of schooling and will probably continue to protect the interest of university administration over victims of sexual assault and harassment. They won’t have that classic ultra-rich evangelical ghoul look and feel, but There’ll be enough left in tact so that the next DeVos type can pick right up where Betsy leaves off.
What the fuck are you pretending to advocate for here?
Treating Biden and his administration as the enemy the instant they enter the office should they win the election, and opposing them just as strongly as we do Trump?
lol awesome good luck champ
I have a theory that if Kennedy loses to Markey he'll end up in Biden's cabinet. Buttigieg also is a likely lock.
so he will hire the swamp back... biden in public office 40+ yrs... and umm... can anyone name anything he did? (good or bad!)
When did the swamp go away??? You're really pretending there is no functional difference between Julian Castro and Ben Carson??
Biden lied a lot. Guess what ended his 1988 Presidential bid? The fuckstick plagiarized a speech word for word. This useless fuck told a crowd in Scranton, PA he was a coal miner. Fucking crook. His son Hunter is a drug addict and a thief. Fuck this asshole.
Yes drug addicts are inherently bad people. Keep propagating conservative mantras. Good job dude.
I think I'm going to be ill. Biden is a lying, POS. scum of the Earth. C'mon man are you a f***tard? Dumb ass.
Dumb ass
Isn't this basically the cycle of American politics? Republicans in power fuck some stuff up, start a war, and cut taxes/services (pick one or all), then Democrats gain power and sort of fix things but don't necessarily make things much better than they were before. Then the cycle starts again.
Yeah it absolutely is. And it's absolutely more effective to lobby, petition and advocate within a generally competent, well-meaning neoliberal's bureaucracy than within that of a completely amoral kleptocrat like Tom Price or Chad Wolf or Betsy Devos. Pretending there isn't a difference there is just stupid.
Sorry I wasn't trying to pretend there's not a difference, rather making the point that this cycle partially explains the lack of fast progress towards leftist issues. Too much time spent recovering from Republican administrations.
Oh absolutely agree. I totally wish we had a leftist champion as the nominee, but Biden is apparently what we get. So on day one we start rattling sabers for his cabinet appointments and policy moves.
I really liked Osita Nwanevu's 'modest proposal,' that if elected, he should immediately resign.
https://newrepublic.com/article/155943/elected-joe-biden-president-five-minutes
still of the opinion that a bonsai tree would and should be the best choice to lead us
If Biden wins we can all go to brunch, right?
C’mon, man!
I mean apparently everyone loves when Joe yells at people. I say let him challenge everyone to a push up contest and say "c'mon man" every five seconds.
I personally would love to have a push-up contest with Joe Biden while he yells weird insults from the 1920s at me. I'd rather have Bernie be the president, but hey. Maybe I'll get the push-up contest.
This is the most logical thing in this thread.
Biden was already the least worst choice in a lot of people's minds and everyone already knows who he is so the strategy of 'let others around me implode' seems about right. The most confusing part about the primary to me is I felt like so many people I know were surprised or just couldn't believe the moderates consolidated like that. That was always the play, and it wasn't collusion (a term that is basically rendered meaningless at this point), just American politics. I was looking for something in some old messages a couple months before Super Tuesday recently and was literally making a bet with a policy friend in DC about when the consolidation was going to go down. It did go down a bit more dramatically than I thought, but doesn't everything these days?
Realistically though, [president] Biden has an ego just like every single other politician currently serving, and I would bet money he cares far more about his legacy and racking up congressional wins than he does about progressive policies. He's not going to stand in the way of progressive reforms that come up the chain. As usual, people are putting far too much stock in the presidency, it's a distraction, congress and public opinion matter more in this battle.
Biden has said he would veto Medicare for All, and the platform committee voted overwhelmingly against it, despite the policy enjoying widespread support from Democrats and the electorate at large.
Dude, this fucking ninny just doesn't stop. The brass balls on such a turbocucked lib calling himself 'punk rock'.
He had a wallet chain and a bowling shirt and frosted tips and listened to ska and rockabilly for four months during 1995 and refers to it as his wild punk years.
This is hilarious considering I'm only on this blog because I know one of the writers through punk rock social circles.
Where. The. Fuck. is your buddy in this? If I had a really real, totally cool, I can't name him though friend who wrote for this site I'd have sent him a text two hours ago, he'd have called the guy I was arguing with a poser and stfu and that would have been the end of it.
It would have taken like, 5 seconds. Are you like this in real life? Do you just constantly spin wild, transparent lies every ten minutes?
I don’t know what to tell you. Most of the things I’ve said about myself on this thread is probably confirmable on the internet. In fact, if you just look around other posts you can probably confirm some of this yourself, though I’m not sure because of the subscriber thing. I would not contact a single person in my life in regards a fucking argument on the internet, and in this case, I’m not sure you’d even believe what your eyes saw.
You know, my canadian girlfriend said the same thing.
Every punk clique has a Beto. Everyone knows from day one who it is. The guy who never has rent money but has a rich dad so he's got 20k in ink on him.
See, now this actually does piss me off a little. Both of my parents grew up on welfare, other government assistance, and "begging from relatives" in their words. My mom, who didn't have much of a childhood, was the oldest of 9 kids with a severely alcoholic father who didn't work the first 20 years of her life. But hey, lucky for me they worked hard, got educated, and I didn't grow up that way. You have no clue what you're talking about. Do you judge everyone this quickly? Or just people with marginally different political views?
Also cheers on getting welfare and then voting in the guy who destroyed welfare. Keep on burning those ladders fucko.
And keep pretending like there's only a marginal difference between your centrist ass and people on the Actual Left. Because you can't be a conservative, reactionary status quo lib if you're 99.9% a lefty.
Here's some punk, lib.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nFvhhCulaw
Whoa, check out the likes piling up on this guys posts! One and only one! The very second he posts! He's kicking my ass in Klout!
It doesn't matter, these guys live entirely in a fanfic headcanon that has no reference to any of the very public words and deeds Biden's said and done in full view of TV cameras and on the front page of major newspapers for 50 years.
Rather than deal with the fact that after 4 years of #MeToo and #BLM he's going to be voting for a segregationist dixiecrat who raped at least one woman, he's decided he's voting for the candidate that we'd all actually like to see elected, and therefore he's not compromised, not owned, laughing about it actually. Can't wait for all the progressive reforms like not caging children, like not attacking reproductive rights, like not criminalizing blackness, like not evicting millions on fraudulent pretext for a bank's bottom line, that literally would not exist to be reformed but for a half century of the diligent work of Joseph Robinette Biden.
Wow, all I can think when reading this is that smart progressivism must have gone down in that plane with Paul Wellstone.
Oh shit if you're gonna try to norm-shame did you come to the wrong place.
Medicare for All would never make it to Biden's desk. Medicare for All has never been in focus aside than somewhat in the primary, it has never faced the kind of public well funded beating that would ensue. Today's public opinion is just that, today's public opinion. Bernie ran a 5 year campaign for president and ended up less popular.
Besides, do you really want Joe Biden advocating for Medicare for All? Your spokes person and optics mean a ton. That would be a disaster.
Holy fuck your name just hit me. Nothing more punk rock than giving racists a complete free pass. It's rare to see someone in the Chrysalis phase of the punk-to-fash metamorphosis.
"This banker's racist pet senator is Oi! as fuck! Can't wait to crush a buncha mickeys with my boys from the squat then hit the voting booth to entrench Wells Fargo execs Christmas 2020 bonuses on the backs of black renters!
Keep on Speaking Compliments To Power, you fucking Beto-ass ex-crust.
You know, picking your battles wisely is a useful life skill. Why at this moment in our timeline would I waste picking a battle with Joe fucking Biden? Someone who hasn't changed a bit in the 25 years I've been reading political news when I wake up in the morning. Our time here is limited you know.
It takes two to tango. So why the fuck are you wasting it lying about him?
You seem pretty aware what a fuckface he is.
Also, bitch it's not a waste of time to attack evil powerful people. Thats the basis of this whole website, this very article where you did that fakeass "Hey good take! I totally agree with this post and oh did I mention halfway through this comment I'm gonna do a 180 and vocally support/deny everything this article is about!"
It reads as genuine and real as the replies that are like "Wonderful article, it reminds me of my aunt who made 50,000 working from home playing clash of clans at bitcoinsilkroad.yx!" btw.
And it's 50 years, not 25. He got his start in the 70s, with mob help, by opposing bussing sending his 'white kids into jungle schools'
Man I'm not sure what sort of DNC intern office you're posting out of, but get another gig.
Yikes. The 25 years was a referencing to how long I've personally paid any attention to politics. See, my parents were very civically engaged people. They started incorporating political discussions in my life when I was about 12. My first political project was on free speech and I read old ACLU cases for Social Studies class. Right now I'm killing time until this awful video conference I'm on ends.
Did I even comment directly on any of this blog post? I just came on here to throw an opinion out there like everyone else. Anyway, I hope being constantly angry about every powerful person in the world suits you well. I'm sure if you just focus on everything at once you'll get things done efficiently.
Oh my god, did you like your own post?
In fairness, it seems like replying to your comment via email notifications auto-likes on my behalf? So that's one personality flaw you honestly don't express. I've corrected it.
Did I? It wasn't intentional if I did. Would you actually be available outside of here? I've been working on writing a bot with a friend that targets nazis on Reddit. I know you're not a nazi, but the stream of comments I've been reading lately coming from that output is remarkably similar in tone. I'd like to learn more.
He literally went up against contraceptive coverage in Obamacare.
You mean disagreements happen in politics?
I mean you literally just said he wouldn't get in the way of progressive policies, and he very famously and publicly did.
Disagreements between your Fox-Brained fantasia and reality do happen frequently in politics.
Serious feedback. I'm having trouble following what you're saying. Is that really your best example when talking about Biden? I'd have given you a better one than that if you asked.
Everyon knows what sealioning is man. No one bites at that hook
Make a positive statement. Quit posting no-content reactions to other people's statements. You said some proveably wrong shit and you haven't responded genuinely to any of it.
I actually don't even know what sealioning is but I'll Google it now. Please fact check me. What facts did I miss. I think you're having trouble with my subjective statements.
A Biden Presidency will bring down America into a Socialist paradise that billionaires like Soros, Gates, Bloomberg so they can run a puppet regime with him at the figure head President in name only.
You are insane much like Groper.
That last paragraph is absolutely perfect.
The problem with Biden, is that his tool kit only contains a hammer, and all the problems need a screw driver.