These people are so horse-race-politics-brained that they can't wrap their minds around the concept that BOTH CHOICES WERE BAD. Anyone who gave a shit about Gaza had zero good choices in this election (unless Cornel West had some peace plan that I ignored because I can't be bothered with Cornel West). Blaming people with zero good choices for picking one of the bad choices is some kind of idiocy.
I can't imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth that will commence when these fools finally understand that a two-party system doesn't automatically mean that one party is a "good" choice. The tears will render entire farming towns in Nebraska useless.
I agree with this, but I’d amend to say Joe Biden and Kamala Harris with the support of BOTH the democratic and Republican parties committed genocide. The suggestion that this wasn’t also absolutely a bipartisan effort always rubs me incorrectly. And it is also reflected in how we talk about the election choices. America has a long history of imperial violence. Anyone who paid taxes here in the past 4 years contributed. No one is innocent of “supporting genocide” when we zoom out. I don’t know what’s right to say, but I am personally completely disgusted that anyone voted for Trump to take away our rights when he had always planned to do this. Two genocides don’t make a right, it would seem.
We don't need to zoom out, though. In the end it didn't matter who supported his decisions, Biden had legal authority to stop arms shipments to Israel, and instead chose to expedite them. Other politicians supporting him doesn't absolve him, and bringing taxpayer contribution into the conversation is losing the trees for the forest when those taxes are compulsory and we don't directly choose how that money is spent. Maybe none of us are "innocent", but some of us are more guilty than others, and Biden- who had direct power to end our involvement and instead accelerated it- is certainly the guiltiest.
Sure, but Biden wasn’t on the ballot, and this refusal to engage with JD as culpable now proves this isn’t about who is actually responsible. And calling everyone genocide supporters when they had the same shit options to choose between really isn’t helping a soul in Palestine.
This development simply underscores the fact that this is a 1-party nation. The Globetrotters can’t play their game if the Generals don’t agree to lose.
Deeply grateful for this read amid a storm of smug reactions to further genocide. While I did hold my nose and vote for Harris, I have absolutely no ire for anyone who couldn't bring themselves to do it. I'm saving my anger for Harris herself and the DNC, who chose to ignore EXTREMELY CLEAR polling that even the smallest kind of pushback against the genocide in Palestine would have been overwhelmingly popular.
Acknowledging recency bias for having just finished Shogun, but we really need to forcibly introduce seppuku as a political practice. These cretins have no shame, dignity, or morals in life, we should give them the chance to grasp for them on the way out.
These people need to provide some reason why they think Harris/the Democrats wouldn't have endorsed this "plan" by Netanyahu. At least 1 Dem Senator (Fetterman) has already signed off on it and the Biden/Harris approach to Gaza was "whatever Netanyahu wants"
It *appears that the writer of the article originally argued against voting for Biden because he didn't think Biden was adequately pro-Palestinian, and now that writer is getting angry at people saying "I told you so"
Thing is, you can't shame people out of saying ITYS when they were right & you didn't listen.
These people are so horse-race-politics-brained that they can't wrap their minds around the concept that BOTH CHOICES WERE BAD. Anyone who gave a shit about Gaza had zero good choices in this election (unless Cornel West had some peace plan that I ignored because I can't be bothered with Cornel West). Blaming people with zero good choices for picking one of the bad choices is some kind of idiocy.
I can't imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth that will commence when these fools finally understand that a two-party system doesn't automatically mean that one party is a "good" choice. The tears will render entire farming towns in Nebraska useless.
I agree with this, but I’d amend to say Joe Biden and Kamala Harris with the support of BOTH the democratic and Republican parties committed genocide. The suggestion that this wasn’t also absolutely a bipartisan effort always rubs me incorrectly. And it is also reflected in how we talk about the election choices. America has a long history of imperial violence. Anyone who paid taxes here in the past 4 years contributed. No one is innocent of “supporting genocide” when we zoom out. I don’t know what’s right to say, but I am personally completely disgusted that anyone voted for Trump to take away our rights when he had always planned to do this. Two genocides don’t make a right, it would seem.
We don't need to zoom out, though. In the end it didn't matter who supported his decisions, Biden had legal authority to stop arms shipments to Israel, and instead chose to expedite them. Other politicians supporting him doesn't absolve him, and bringing taxpayer contribution into the conversation is losing the trees for the forest when those taxes are compulsory and we don't directly choose how that money is spent. Maybe none of us are "innocent", but some of us are more guilty than others, and Biden- who had direct power to end our involvement and instead accelerated it- is certainly the guiltiest.
Sure, but Biden wasn’t on the ballot, and this refusal to engage with JD as culpable now proves this isn’t about who is actually responsible. And calling everyone genocide supporters when they had the same shit options to choose between really isn’t helping a soul in Palestine.
This development simply underscores the fact that this is a 1-party nation. The Globetrotters can’t play their game if the Generals don’t agree to lose.
Deeply grateful for this read amid a storm of smug reactions to further genocide. While I did hold my nose and vote for Harris, I have absolutely no ire for anyone who couldn't bring themselves to do it. I'm saving my anger for Harris herself and the DNC, who chose to ignore EXTREMELY CLEAR polling that even the smallest kind of pushback against the genocide in Palestine would have been overwhelmingly popular.
Acknowledging recency bias for having just finished Shogun, but we really need to forcibly introduce seppuku as a political practice. These cretins have no shame, dignity, or morals in life, we should give them the chance to grasp for them on the way out.
These people need to provide some reason why they think Harris/the Democrats wouldn't have endorsed this "plan" by Netanyahu. At least 1 Dem Senator (Fetterman) has already signed off on it and the Biden/Harris approach to Gaza was "whatever Netanyahu wants"
A good reminder why I unsubscribed from Puck et al.
It *appears that the writer of the article originally argued against voting for Biden because he didn't think Biden was adequately pro-Palestinian, and now that writer is getting angry at people saying "I told you so"
Thing is, you can't shame people out of saying ITYS when they were right & you didn't listen.
Can you give the source for the idea that 30% of 2020 Biden voters not voting in 2024 because of Gaza?
it's linked in the piece but here: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/biden-voters-passed-kamala-harris-because-gaza-new-poll-shows