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Joe’s role in the ongoing genocide already disqualified him far as I’m concerned. I will say, it was sad to see Bernie and AOC hitch their wagons to the sinking Biden ship. I’m hoping the blowback isn’t too bad.

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Speaking of Bernie, he's a bit old himself. I recognize that there are precious few politicians with his politics, but maybe it's time for him to consider retirement as well?

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Oh man, there are some people in their FEELS over at Wonkette. I posted what I thought was a pretty justifiable take that I wish Joe was listening two years ago when most of the party didn't want him to run, and DANG was the backlash swift.

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That place still exists?

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It is in fact extremely popular, at least as shown by the number of commenters and the fact that it still exists despite hiding nothing behind a paywall.

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Do people really think Kamala has a worse chance, in any way that’s statistically significant, to beat Trump versus Biden? She polls better than Biden in most swing states, and the Dems have raised $30m today since Joe dropped out. Pretty clear people—whatever they thought about Biden—weren’t enthused about a weekend at Bernie’s campaign/presidency.

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I think they (rightly) (well, mostly rightly) think that Biden was a very good President. For Americans. But to me it seems more based on past accomplishments than future prospects. I don't think a large part of that contingent can hold both that Biden has been mostly a good President (yes I know I KNOW) and that he's clearly past his Sell-By date. Those are not mutually exclusive concepts.

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I have been afraid to say anything because I know people are going to be upset.

I don't understand at all.

My guess is some people are afraid (this epoch is scary, and the world is scary) so they imagine things that make them feel safer.

I am going to wait for them to calm down.

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I actually wanted to write something like "Joe Biden is not your friend, please grow up" and then Jack came out with exactly that today, so I kind of feel okay about it.

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Let the slightly disguised racism and misogyny begin... certainly going to be a wild DNC!

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Idk most of the legit would-be challengers have already endorsed Kamala. Only names I haven’t seen declaring support for Harris are Pritzker and Beshear. Feels like the deck is being cleared so the convention is a celebration and not a dogfight.

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It's really the only play that would show strength and cohesion.

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I genuinely appreciate the work of the Discourse Blog through this wild time. We as people strive to craft narratives to make sense of the world; to give us an inkling that somehow there's a way to control the incontrollable. It can admittedly bring calm to a very chaotic world. In actuality, we're all vessels on a huge rock in the middle of space just hoping for the best. That's it!

To put it another way - No one knows shit. At all. Ever. Treat more things like theories/hypothesises and less like natural facts and you'll be better for it. So when someone says the Democrats are cooked, or another says this is a brilliant tactical move, don't trust either of them. Find ways to help if you're so inclined/able (Time and treasure are both great things to give). Tell fascists to fuck right off. Fight with anger from having to fight for human rights in the year 2024. But don't give up.

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I think the "unknowable world" stuff is a little overblown. Donald Trump is one of the most unpopular human beings in history, and Kamala Harris isn't.

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So, I have mixed feelings here. On one hand, Biden was far, far from an ideal candidate. While the latest non partisan polls still show essentially a tied race (or within the margin of error), it was, at best, going to be very, very close.

Otoh, I, personally, have a very difficult time seeing anyone else being able to appeal to the very few undecided voters left at this point. I suspect this race, like most, will come down to the percentage of the voting population who pays about 3min of attention to the candidates through the year, and then often votes for the most familiar name. And I don't know that there is anyone else, except possibly Harris, with both the name recognition and the popularity to have even the slightest chance of winning in the 3-6 swing states that will decide the race. And I'm concerned even about Harris given that up until very recently, she was usually even less popular, and certainly her accomplishments much less visible, than Biden.

I fear that this means that no matter how well-qualified the new candidate or how well they do among Democrats and left-leaning Independents, there just isn't the time to build the campaign needed to reach those critical, minimally-engaged, swing state voters. I would also really, really like to see Democratic campaigns in general as well as the media start to place more emphasis on Trump's age and cognitive struggles, from his many verbal mixups and flat out babbles nonsense over the last 8 years to the fact that he hasn't released nor even allowed anyone to speak about the head CT done at his ER visit after the shooting. (If, as he alleged, what struck him was actually a rifle bullet, even though it appears pretty much impossible that it "pierced" his ear as he said as opposed to grazing him, there is a chance of brain trauma from such a high-velocity force to the head, which makes it all the more unacceptable that the only "medical report"provided thus far has been from Ronny Johnson/Jackson, who is no longer a licensed physician and almost certainly was not involved in Trump's treatment immediately after the shooting. The fact that the media hasn't emphasized the absence of any actual physician's reports is a huge oversight and seems almost biased.) Political opinions will pretty much stand where they are through November. But given all the attention paid to Biden's cognitive status and age, I really think the same spotlight must be shone on Trump as well.

I would love to see a post on others' thoughts about the different possible nominees and what would be the best strategy to run a campaign in 3 months.

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When North Korea Comes to America, Can You Say Coup? https://shorturl.at/VlVDL

And a flashback:

When the Two State Solution Sought is Michigan and Minnesota, and not Israel and Palestine, You Can Expect Another Cackle from Vice President Kamala Harris. https://shorturl.at/JUYXq

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"coconut-shaped crown"?

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No tea-leaf or Tarot card reading, evidence right there for those who take an objective view of Joe's diminishing chances.

All aboard the Kamala Harris train!

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We definitely need someone young, progressive, and anti genocide to run. Either Ilhan Omar or Rashida Tlaib would be an excellent choice.

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I don't think Ilhan Omar is eligible (per the constitution) since she's not a born American citizen.

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Joe Biden hands the Presidency to Kamala Harris. (Apparently it is a Law in the USA?)

So if it can be proved without a doubt he is senile/Parkinsons etc does this mean that what he suggests can be undermined?

I ask only because I have a horrible feeling that HC will be back.

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It's not a law. None of this is a law because the Democratic Party is in theory a private organization and can make what decisions it wishes

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Yes. They set up a process and they have to follow it or else there could be lawsuits etc. but the OP said "it is a Law in the USA" seeming to refer to some law that the VP (or else Harris herself?) would have to be picked. There is no such law. And really I don't see much that's relevant to "federal election law" here other than, as you say, Biden will release his delegates and there will be some process where they choose a new nominee

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Biden doesn’t have any delegates now that he’s dropped out. All delegates are basically uncommitted.

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GENOCIDE JOE

gemoide joe

good riddens

Kamala no way joesie

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The donors aren't only interested in a Biden win though they CAN get their money back.

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